Ilona Gaynor is an artist, writer and film-maker. She is also director and founder of research studio, The Department of No and teaches digital and media students ‘how to tell better stories’ at Rhode Island School of Design.LINK
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Patrick Pittman (PP), co-editor of The Alpine Review, sat down with the pair to talk about the benefits of a criminal mind, unconventional modes of understanding, and design and materiality.